Elder counseling

Welcome to the discussion topic on elder counseling. We welcome you thoughts, reflections or narrative experiences.

Alzheimer's & Dementia

I have never had a close relationship to my grandparents. Something I envy when I see my parents interacting with their grandchildren. The children seem so comfortable with them. I never enjoyed being dropped off for overnight visits there. It was never a comfortable situation being with them. It was always just small talk and more of a relationship where I probably only spoke when spoken too. I was shy around them. I always dreaded visits with them even when my parents were there with me. Now as they are getting older I guess the guilt is settling in a bit with me. On one hand when I look at the relationship I can rationalize and think "Well they never had a close relationship with my Mother who is an only child so why would it be any different with me?" I could never understand the distance between them but have never discussed it openly with my mother. On the other hand I feel like I should be doing more for them. My grandmother is now in a home with Alzheimer's / dementia. I had put off seeing her for quite some time and finally decided to do so. I knew there would be tears. I tried to toughen myself up but I couldn't contain the emotions. I can't bear the initial shock of having a mental picture that doesn't add up to the reality. It's shocking. I hate these places with a passion. I can still remember going to visit my great grandmother as a child and it feeling dreadful. Maybe that has stuck with me cause every time I need to visit an ill grandparent I put it off. I already missed out on a grandfather that I hadn't visited before he passed. Being in that old age home angered me. The quality of life those people are living is truly sad. They are basically dying a slow death. My grandmother looked like she was in a catatonic state. There is zero emotion or life left in her. Her eyes give a wide blank stare. She's frail and shuffles around slowly. She is constantly drooling. She is the only one on that floor that can walk. Her brain  to say the least is being eaten away slowly by this disease. It seems harsh to say all this but it is reality. She didn't know my name and while visiting she doesn't speak. Those places scare me. I just want to run, and to make it worse the elders seem to always want to come and touch me. It scares me to be honest. I wish I knew what she felt or what she was thinking. I hugged her goodbye and it felt like I was hugging an empty shell. I received nothing in return from her. No one wants to see a long painful death but the truth is it can be a part of life. I don't fear dying but I have always feared getting old and suffering

Alzheimer's

I was really moved by your post and your honesty with your struggle.  It is extremely hard to watch one's we love and have had a connection to decline and suffer, even witnessing what seems like the destruction of their dignity. 

It seems to me that those diseases that appear to remove a person's ability to connect meaningfully are the scariest....whether this is actually the case, I do not know...but it is a fear that strikes at the very core of my sense of humanity.  At the same time, I can't help but believe that the touch, the hug, the gaze DO mean something and are able to touch another, even if we feel like we can't know it for certain.

I admire your courage to struggle with your own fears and discomfort so that you could reach out and touch your grandmother, in some place this means something.  

Alzheimer's and Dementia

I read your posting with so much feeling. I lost my dear aunt who was like a mother to me, to Alzheimer's'. She was gone long before her physical body left this earth. I travelled west to Saskatchewan twice to see her only to be met with, "how did you get here", Why are you here?" What happened to my apartment" Where is my furniture" (it was with her out west where her son was looking after her in his home).

She had been a vibrant business woman in her earlier years and retired at the age of 65.She was widowed at an early age and left with a son to raise. She went back to school (which so one of her era did) and retrained to support her and her son. I credit her with my decision to return to school in my 50's!

To see what I referred to as her physical shell, was so very hard for me. I shed many tears. I think she knew who I was but I am really not sure. The aunt I loved, who I looked up to was gone. I have some wonderful memories that I carry with me every day of my life. I cried so hard at her memorial service when I saw an array of the hats she loved at the front of the church.

I know your experience is a difficult one but it is your experience and will be difficult for awhile. Your courage in going forth to make this contact is hard but I believe you will be glad that it is something that you have done. It may take awhile but you will attach yourself to other memories that will sustain you.

Elder frustration

I am feeling very upset as I write this, as despite my best efforts at not being drawn into family dramas, today I lost the battle. I was speaking to an elderly family member this morning. Over many years, I have listened to a litany of complaints, accusations, and illnesses, some dubious, some real, mostly imagined I think...however, I realize this person is lonely and vulnerable, so have always managed to keep things pleasant and friendly.  Today, trying to veer the conversation away from a recent family drama, this elderly relative called my mother a "liar" and "it's her way or the highway". I flew to her defence and hooked into the situation. I am both disappointed in myself for speaking up and proud of myself for it. At what point, and how much, is one expected to indulge meanness and self-centredness for the sake of protecting someone's feelings...I am wanting to dispel the energy this has left me by doing somethign physical, and  chalking it up to a learning experience, being all the more wary for the next time it happens.

I think the important thing

I think the important thing for you is what can be learned from this and you have stated that. Sometimes it is challenging to stay completely conscious and present in a given situation. You noted that this person is vulnerable. I believe you may have been in a vulnerable state also concerning your mother.

Try not to be too hard on yourself but accept this as a learning experience.

 

elder frustration

Thank you for the support around this situation. I carried a lot of that anger energy around with me yesterday, and was lost for a good part of the day. I am frightened that I can still "lose it" despite all my years of exposure to therapy. Most days are good, but now I wonder whether I really am in control of myself. It is a frightening thing, to not always know how I'm going to react to something, especially as this situation has been ongoing and familiar. I am also frightened that I feel cold towards this person, and our relationship will never be the same. That scares me more than anything. I think I resent this person for not truly seeing me, or any of my family, and the hurtful things that have been said over the years have just bubbled up and I reacted to all of it, instead of just the recent situation. I do see this person in myself, and I hate it. Hence the coldness. This may very well be the hurdle I have to overcome should I expect to be successful as my own loving therapist. I'll keep this post alive, and thank you again.

concentric circles of growth

Your post really struck me and made me reflect on how easy it is to think that a therapy journey is about becoming "zen-like" and not allowing anything to bother us - and yet I know that I can still carry strong feeling reactions to people and situations because, no matter what, I am still quite human, and this is the learning that I have to hold onto, even when I find myself acting on these reactions.  The "gift" is to be able to own what is and has happened and this you have clearly done. 

To Dream new dreams

As I am preparing to begin a new chapter in my life I realize that I have been very fortunate to achieve some wonderful goals in my life.  The road hasn't been easy however I feel blessed and for that I am very grateful.

I felt inspired a new as I read the following quote about dreams;

"Change your future!  As you recreate this positive force in your life, take big, massive leaps into your future.  Be imaginative, bold and brave! The result may surprise you.  "  Jim Allen

Thank you for sharing that

Thank you for sharing that inspiring quote, I am currently in the middle of some major transitions that are both wonderfully exciting and at the same time make me feel anxious - "am I dreaming too big, stepping out too far?" these are the fears that come to me at night.  Your quote reminds me just how important it is to step bravely into our future, thank you again.

Tonight I just got off the

Tonight I just got off the phone with my mother. My father, who has had skin cancer for a few years now, has a sore on the top of his head that has grown agressively and has changed in nature to what is called "basal cell squamous carcinoma" - she was given the option of surgery or radiation. My father is 87, has Alzheimers' disease so (mercifully)  doesn't quite know what's going on with himself, and can no longer walk, so he's wheelchair- bound. What a mess. My mother is now left to decide what the best option for him is, and she's stuck. Personally, I think surgery would be too hard on him. On the other hand, she would have to travel out of town for him to get the radiation. She was advised to let the family know, and then let the doctors know her decision once it's been discussed. I am frightened for both of them. As my parents don't live near me, I feel this is some sort of call-to-arms in preparation for farewells. I feel sick about this. Somehow, now, both of my parents, those iconic symbols of what was right and most times wrong with my youth, have arrived in a place where they need me.

I must have my wits about me for this journey. It is hard to watch their demise and not get lost in the sorrow. I can only be there for them if I'm there for myself. One day at a time.

Today I just got of the...........

I read your posting with great feeling. I have been in similar circumstances with a close family member who meant the world to me. This person however, was my saviour in childhood and not responsilbe for the dynamic that I grew up with. She developed alzheimers and had to be moved for support. I could no longer provide the care that she needed. The person I knew and loved had left her body quite some time ago. As the disease progressed there were more physical effects that were so very hard to watch as they took hold. The only thing that helped me through it was something my therapist said to me about her not knowing what was happening to her and that her world was a unique one that was protecting her from the devistations of the disease. She had no knowledge of what was taking over her being. That at least gave me some comfort. Your situation is complicated by physical distance and your father's latest cancer diagnosis. I would like to encourage you to do as you have said, "take one day at a time". Also you need to take good care of yourself and try to do something special for yourself at various intervals. You really do need to look after yourself in order to "have your wits about you". It is indeed hard to watch your parent's demise and at the same time be their pillar of strength. I hold you in my thoughts during this challenging time. I hope you will post on this board again as you walk along this new path.

Thank you for your words of

Thank you for your words of kindness and support, I greatly appreciated it and will take heed at taking care of myself. I know myself and will not be conscious if I don't honour my good energy. the next few days will be spent trying to obtain information regarding travel, health care and options for my father. As much as I would like to have him near me and my siblings, I must consider how the upheaval will affect him, even though he doesn't really know what's going on. I will keep the posting alive with this journey, thank you...\

My Beautiful Nanny

 

I loved my Grandma or Nanny as she was called. She had those smiling eyes that people talk about. I remember her having red hair and then blonde and then red and then blonde. She got perms. She smelled like any number of Avon products, scotch mints and Craven A’s. Her claim to fame in the family was that she never inhaled. It’s still a hotly debated topic. She loved her Y & R (The Young And The Restless) and you did not call during “her show”. Her favourite character was Victor Newman who she thought was quite a catch. Christmas was eagerly discussed in July – she was crazy for it. My best Christmases were always with her. Nanny was a savvy card player and would destroy everyone in Euchre -unless your were lucky enough to have her as your partner. She was also a nighthawk, she loved staying up late and sleeping in. She held a long tradition of being a party girl and could outlast most. At 78 years old she was doing shots at my brother’s 21st birthday party. The more the merrier is what she’d say. She loved the noise and chaos of people having fun around her. She enjoyed Laura Secord French Mints, Spumanti Bambino, homemade rice pudding and a good cup of tea. If she could’ve had the finer things she would’ve. My grandmother was pretty horrible with money and therefore she and my grandfather had very little. The thing about Nanny is that I never noticed this she until I was much older and living on my own. My grandmother always showered me with whatever she could and looking back now, I know it wasn’t much but it felt like everything. That was my Nanny’s gift to me; when she was with me, she made me feel like everything. She was genuinely excited to be spending time with me. With my grandmother there was always a sense of fun and light heartedness, which as I kid I desperately needed. Life in my family home was heavy and filled with anxiety so my grandmother’s arrival felt like a vacation.

 Nanny always lived far away from me – except near the end of her life. My first years were spent in northern Manitoba and she lived in London Ontario. We moved back into the province when I was four although it didn’t feel like Timmins and London were in the same province. It’s dawned on me recently that I always felt close to her – no matter how far away she was. That’s the kind of unconditional love I felt she gave me. Nanny was like a furnace; she radiated warmth. Her hugs were the best because she really meant it. I know I got hugs from my parents but they were complicated and always attached to something. My grandmother’s hugs were not complicated; they were of pure love and adoration. I didn’t have to do anything. I didn’t have to earn those hugs. I didn’t have to get good grades, wash the dishes or lose weight. When I felt my ugliest my grandmother told me I was beautiful. She was the only one who ever said that to me and I knew she meant it. For those brief and powerful moments I didn’t feel so hideous. She took me to the grocery store and would buy me whatever I wanted. It was ok to eat the Frootloops she bought for me. She took me to McDonald’s and I ate without guilt – just like the other kids. I told her that I when I grew up that I was going to move to London, grow my hair long and work at McDonald’s. She thought that was an excellent idea. She thought I was smart and funny. My grandmother took me on my first trip to Wonderland, Marineland and Storybook Gardens – The Big Three in my world. I thought I was the luckiest kid in the world. She let me be.

At twelve years old I was able to take the train with my cousin and visit my grandmother – without my parents. This was the start of my summer retreat until I was fourteen. It was only a couple of weeks but it was an escape from my family where I was suffocating and completely invisible at the same time. My younger brother Mark had just been born and that same summer my older brother Paul would be moving out. My years of fear, violence and chaos in my parents’ house were coming to an end but the spotlight was simply moved from my older brother to my younger brother. I was still part of the scenery at home. In my grandmother’s world though, she saw me – even if it was through rose coloured glasses. I relished those visits with her. I could do whatever I wanted. No one was going to criticize me with Nanny around. If my grandfather dared to open his mouth about my weight (which he was known to do) Rive would tear into him. I never had else anyone defend me like that.

Other than my parents and me, she was the only other person who understood what life was like with my brother Paul. She spent time with us and had a great compassion for Paul’s story and the rest of us caught in it. My grandmother didn’t seem to be afraid of Paul (although I’m sure she was) and she would be straight with him. She had boundaries with Paul, something that my parents certainly didn’t have.  Paul ruled our world but Nanny wouldn’t let him when she was around. They were mystified as to why he would listen to her and not to them. He would apologize to her; this was unheard of. She was a brave woman. No one else in the family wanted to look after us but she did. In fact, I think she really wanted to. I still remember when my parents won a trip to Acapulco in 1980 and she traveled from London to take care of us for ten days. That’s still amazing to me. What a huge responsibility to take on, looking after a pubescent boy who had violent outbursts with unpredictable mood swings and a scared, nine year old girl. This is who my grandmother was. She was the person who would give you the shirt of her back or her last penny. My grandmother took various family and friends into her home over the years - people who’d end up on her doorstep out of the blue. My brother Paul was one of them when he picked up and left home at 16. People must’ve known that they could count on her and that they’d be safe. Some people took advantage of that generosity - her own son being one of the worst but that never stopped her from opening her heart up over and over again.  She gave people second, third and fourth chances. That was just the way she was. I carry this with me and I’ve tried to open my heart, to be more like her and I feel guilty that I can’t do it easily. It’s frightening opening myself up to an unknown. I sometimes feel like if people take too much there’ll be nothing left of me. Maybe it’s because my brother Paul did take alot and so I’m still guarding my heart.

Nanny was fiercely loyal when it came to her grandchildren. She was always on my side because I was her granddaughter. She really tried to see things from my perspective and she was an ally. I’m sure if I’d done something completely unacceptable she would’ve given me hell and I also know that she would’ve forgiven me too. I experienced this watching her with her my brother Paul. For so many reasons I wish that Nanny was still here. I can bet that the falling out that Paul and I had two years ago would be over now if she was still living. She would’ve been honest with Paul and she would’ve told him that he needed to apologize to me. She adored Paul and she also knew that he wasn’t stupid – he could handle the responsibility for his mistakes. I try to remember this about her so the onslaught of guilt coming from my parents doesn’t consume me. I think she’d understand why I can’t have a relationship with Paul now. But she’s not here; the rift remains and I stand alone in the family.

 I think the most important influence that was passed onto me from my grandmother is what I’ve called “The Legacy of Listening”. My grandmother was known to be a good listener. It was her thing. People always went to Nanny to pour their hearts out. Her phone was always ringing or someone was knocking on her door. She really connected with people and she was like a magnet. My mother also shares this legacy, she as notorious for it as my grandmother was. What’s painful is that neither my grandmother nor my mother could listen to their own children or connect with them in the ways that they needed. This is the piece that I carry. I struggle as a mother to stay conscious and do my utmost to listen to my daughter, allowing her to be who she is and to let her be truly seen – temper tantrums and all.

My perception of listening has changed drastically. Growing up I realized that if I listened to people’s problems, they’d see me or at least I thought they’d see me. I watched my grandmother and mother do it. Of course now I know that in most instances I became a vessel and they weren’t actually seeing me at all. I was recreating my family dynamic with drama happening all around me with me as the backdrop. Many of these so-called friendships were exhausting but I didn’t know any other way of being. I was needed. Perhaps some of this might be true for my grandmother. Her father walked out on her and her four siblings when she was still young. I can’t imagine the hardships she must’ve endured growing up. I think in many ways people needing her is what kept her going – maybe she felt seen too. My hope is to take this Legacy of Listening and make it my own by finding a healthy balance, gaining new wisdom and transforming it into healing. I think she would love what I’m trying to do. I know she’ll be with me when I start seeing clients. I can imagine her sitting with her legs crossed with one foot bouncing gently, smoking a cigarette (but not inhaling) and a cup of tea - listening.

 

Thank you

Thank you for your story and deep reflections about your Nanny. I read it yesterday and it was with me all day. One thing that struck me was the powerful bond of the feminine between you and your grandmother. I just love that she stuck by you as her granddaughter, just because you were her granddaughter, and I love the example she set you of being female, with the change in her hair colour over the years and the power of her listening and her attachment to Victor Newman. Maybe I'm projecting but I sense a comfort with femininity with your grandmother, and that she was also comfortable with your femininity. I had a wonderful grandmother too but in my family the feminine had to be sort of covered up, it was weak and silly and self-involved. Thanks for sharing your post and your memories.

In Nana's Hands

 

            The laneway leading to Nana's back door was long and skinny. I would be wiggling in the back seat as my father edged the car slowly up to the tiny garage, trying not to scrape it against the brick walls on either side. As soon as we stopped I'd burst out of the car and run up the wooden steps to the back porch and into Nana's open arms.

            If there was an Olympic hugging event, Nana would have taken Gold. She was soft and strong and solid and I could hold on for as long as I wanted. Coming through the backdoor into her kitchen, the room I most associate with her, was coming home. It was bright and minimalist to the point of industrial with the exception of the wall behind her big stove - her wall of love.

Here she displayed our works of art: the earnest colourings, cut-and-pastings, paintings, and occasional calamities with macaroni and Elmer's glue produced by her grandchildren. Held up with yellowed scotch tape, every effort was proudly signed by the artist in our best printing. She would tell us that when she worked in her kitchen, she wanted to look up and think of us when we weren't there. There would be careful time spent at the dining room table providing her with my very best new effort for her kitchen wall before I left.

A visit with Nana had a number of themes: creativity, food, physical affection, pride and laughter. She had a big personality which she took into the world without hesitation or shame. In our annual September shoe shopping expedition, I followed her through the door of her favorite downtown store where she announced loudly that "I'm here with my granddaughter to buy her a pair of new shoes." I was then allowed to pick out whatever pair of shoes I liked with no scolding to be practical or need to please anyone but myself. Those shoes became my favorites for the next 12 months until it was time to get the next pair.

I remember her sailing into shops, restaurants and movie theatres where she commanded attention and got results. I bobbed in her wake, in awe of her confidence and energy. Spending time with her was like a wonderful rain in a desert: I felt myself unfolding and coming alive in the presence of her absolutely unconditional love and affection. She was the very definition of  a mama bear and being with her was the safest place in my world.

Nana was a depression era homemaker who could stretch a dollar astoundingly far. If there was a way to magically harness the integrity, hard work and ingenuity of that generation of women, we could turn today's economic problems around in a few months. Her kitchen was a hive of activity, producing plain but delicious food in a continuous flow of love and caring. No mystery about where I learned to equate food with comfort.

She did her housework to the sound of Elvis Presley blaring on the Hi-Fi, swiveling her hips as she wielded the dust mop. She recruited us to pick apples, crabapples and pears from the municipal fruit trees lining the canal in stealthy nighttime raids on dark summer evenings. 

And then there was lap time. Nana's lap was heaven on earth. I was cushioned by her bosomy softness and wrapped around by her joyful voice. I could do anything: poke her jowls, waggle the lose skin hanging from her biceps, count her age spots, examine her beaky nose and play with her big rhinestone earrings. She had no self consciousness about her age and how it re-shaped her body. When I asked her what the lose skin under her chin was for, she said "that's where I keep my money".

My favorite part of her was her hands: they were big, strong, thickly veined - a working woman's hands. She wore a dozen slim silver bangles on her left wrist that jingled as she moved. When her hands cupped my face or tucked my hand into hers, it was a lifeline.

Nana died when I was 13 years old, but her imprint on my life is permanent. I learned about love from her - both giving it and receiving it. As she tucked me into bed at night, she taught me to say my prayers: 'god bless daddy, god bless mommy, god bless all my sisters and brothers, god bless...' and the list went on - and on. I've just recently re-connected with this practice and I find it very powerful.

With all my nieces and nephews, I find myself just simply taking delight in them. I love taking them to a movie or shopping for a new book or going for a dog walk. When one of my nieces was struggling in her life, I opened my home to her for several years. That impulse came directly from my relationship with Nana - and it flew in the face of advice from a handful of family and friends who saw the situation as a fait accompli without hope of change. Nana's spirit of unconditional love made those years not perfect, but still a great gift to both my niece and me.

Nana showed me that troubles are not all that life holds - there is joy, laughter and creativity as well. I make my living in a creative business and I get much satisfaction from it. Work is often fun, and I am always seeking ways to make creative connections when launching into a new project.

And while I don't love everything about aging, I'm pretty comfortable with getting older. Nana's vitality and engagement with life as an old woman was formidable. She was out in the world with confidence and personality. What other people thought of her was the least of her concerns. Whether bartering at the farmer's market or harassing the city council for local improvements, her weapons were a quirky charm layered over a very stubborn will.

A sense of humour was another of her gifts. The last time I saw her, she burst into raucous laughter when I ran into the room and skidded across the floor on one of her handmade rag rugs. It's a wonderful memory of her throwing her head back and belly-laughing at my antics. One of my favorite traits in my family is our ability to laugh at ourselves - and that is a legacy she gave us all.

When I wasn't able to visit, she stayed in touch with loving letters. I collected and kept them all and still take them out to re-read. Each one begins with an over-the-top salutation like My Dearest Darling Wee Granddaughter. She filled them with little details of her life, her favorite memories of our last visit, her plans for the next time we would be together, and questions about what was happening in my life. Being no fool, she also tucked a crisp one dollar bill into every letter as a bribe to make sure I would write her back promptly.

I grew up in a family where my feelings of fear, anger and anxiety often threatened to overwhelm me. Nana was my salvation. I'm inexpressibly grateful that I was able to take in her love and hold onto it over the years.

On my path of learning toward becoming a therapist, when I think about how nervous I am about the prospect of working with clients, I can continue to draw on the life lessons I learned from her: an open and caring heart, a sense of humour, and a spirit of creativity are the foundation I will build on.

I have been in my seventh

I have been in my seventh decade for six weeks now and still have not emotionally caught up with the reality of being 70.  Did I really write that number?  Is this really me?  I have memories of always being the youngest in any group I was a part of , maybe because circumstances put me into grade one when I was only four;  the pattern continued throughout my life - I was 11 in Grade 9, 16 in my first year of university- at 22, the youngest staff member at the High School where I taught English.  Being blessed with good health, a supportive family and wonderful friends, at 70, I am  still active and am doing volunteer teaching of international students.  There and in many groups now, I am definitely not the youngest.

 I've been distressed by how unready I am for this time in life but  a couple of weeks ago, in the Womens' Book Store in Toronto, I had a moment of grace in the form of the last copy of Jean Shinoda Bolen's book "Crones Don't Whine" which jumped off the shelf at me.  (My grace moments often happen in book stores.)  The book is wise and compassionate; it suggests thirteen qualities of a successful "crone".  But most important to me at that moment was the major idea which was that like every new phase of life, crones aren't born; they are made.  The very word "crone" had always scared me.  The beauty of this book is that it draws a profile of the elder woman that makes me want to be one.  Cronedom, like adulthood, parenthood, retirement-hood is something we can aspire to, something we can grow into.   What a relief this idea brought me.  It's O.K. that I'm uncomfortable being 70; I can grow with it and into it; I can learn " not to whine, to be juicy, to trust what I know in my bones. to meditate in my fashion, to be fierce about what matters to me, to choose the path with heart, to speak the truth with compassion, to listen to my body, to improvise, to savour the good in my life."  

Thank-you Jean Shinoda Bolen for your book, for this moment of grace.

  Iam in mid life and am

 

Iam in mid life and am blessed to still be able to hug my parents. While this body contact has changed in meaning for me, I am left breathless by its implications, given their failing health, eyesight, cognition, memory, bodily functions, "life power". Sometimes I just want to stay in the "resent mode", because that means they are still powerful over me, it defines our relationship, and I can handle the place they've relegated me to - child, helpless, useless, needing to be dominated, etc.

Now that they're feeble, sometimes helpless, repetetive, slow, I cannot resent them anymore...I see only their human-ness, their need for understanding, their fright, their terror at the unknown. There but for chronology go I. Go we all.

So with the hug comes compassion, dread, love,an attempt at patience, a prayer, perhaps another hug for good measure, until tomorrow. I see only older ones of us, just people who have struggled with demons, with or without help, a lifetime of shoulds and shouldn'ts and having their own resentments. I look at their watery eyes and want so badly to make contact with the light inside. Sometimes this happens but it feels unbearable for both of us so we look away. It does help to hug, to hold hands, to smile, because it fills in the gaps for that which remains unsaid. My struggle with coming to terms with my parents as people, and not my captors, or owners, or jailers, has been long and difficult, and continues to haunt me for its intricacy and simplicity. I appreciate this forum to explore the past through the future.

I am glad to see  Elder

I am glad to see  Elder counseling presented on this discussion board. Also to see the pictoral examples showing people in an older age bracket. This is representative to me that people of all ages can benefit from therapy. I am in an older age bracket. I began therapy in my mid forties. At this time in my life, a lot of my childhood traumas and issues chose to become very much alive in my life. They were triggered by an event that occurred as I was progressing in age. This I learned about later as I was well into my psychotherapy journey. Often there seems to be a misconception that psychotherapy must be started at a younger age in order to be effective. I do not believe this is the case. I am now past 60 years of age and cannot begin to express the learnings that I have acquired while chosing to continue working with my therapist. As one ages, life issues can change or in some cases stay the same but become a lot more intense. In any case, learning about them, receiving understanding from an attuned supportive psychotherapist in a safe and trusting environment, can make the difference in healthy aging. Life continues to evolve for me and it has more meaning than I could possibly have imagined.

How do I be the perfect

How do I be the perfect grandmother?

 

Being a first time grandmother, I am committed to teaching my granddaughter all that I've learned over my life time. The truth is that I have the perfect granddaughter, who is showing me how imperfect I am or how perfectly human I am.

Second time around, she enables me to see what was missing for me and how I can learn to help her with these same rights of passage that every child goes through. She is showing me the embodiments of all of my learnings, by giving me the honour of walking beside her, observing her growing steps and offering her the necessary love along the way, when of course she asks for it.

In comparison to her offerings, I am humbled and I am prepared to give my life over to her by always being committed to stand in my own wounds and pains for the purposes of supporting this child or all children to grow in ways that they will plant the seeds of the future that are necessary for the love and care of others.

 

 

What a loving place to be for

What a loving place to be for you and for your granddaughter to be in. Reading your words provoked a longing in me for something that I never had with my own grandparents. I was fortunate in that my one grandmother lived well into her nineties. As an adult I was able to connect with her and love her and care for her. Although by then she suffered from dementia, I learned a great deal from her. Our grandparents have so much to teach us just because they have lived and experienced so much in life.

Now I have my own children. I guess I had a fantasy that my mother would be able to be with her grandchildren in a way that she was never able to be with me. Unfortunately that hasn't come to pass. She loves the idea of her grandchildren rather then the reality of them. The pictures of them, rather then the noisy, energetic and exhuberant in-your-face version. I also realize that I miss not having her wisdom and support for my journey through life and now through motherhood.

I feel a deep sadness around this. In exploring this in my own therapy I have also come to see that this has been a generational experience in my family. My grandmother was the black sheep in her family because she married badly. In turn, my grandmother didn't know how to be supportive of my mother. Seeing this is helping me feel more compassion for my mother who is simply repeating an old family pattern. I feel sad for her and for me because we are both missing out on a rich exchange. So are my children.

I feel grateful to the support of my therapist, and my community members, who have been able to fill part of the role that my mother has absented herself from. With their support I have already broken many of my family's negative patterns and my young family has benifited from this. So, my sadness and longing of what cannot be, shares a place with a growing joy and pride in myself and my life.