Harville Hendrix Couples Therapy

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I just finished watching these amazing videos and one of the points that really struck me - and there are many...was about how you "stay in the canoe and keep paddling" - I guess for me that is a very hopeful and challenging idea...that in relation to others, if we just keep on paddling there is a way to work towards and find connectivity through the struggle to find empathy with another.  And as Hendrix suggests...it’s in a storm when you really, really must keep paddling.

I think sometimes in the tough moments of trying to understand and be understood, it can be easier just to withdraw (I know that that can be the urge that I have), shutdown or walk away...but Hendrix reminds me that to stay and struggle with another is worth it to reach empathy and connection....which is really what this is all about anyway, isn't it?

Anyway, I have much more to reflect on and I will come back and write some more a bit later.... 

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Harville Hendrix  IMAGO Therapy .

An excellent video and a great learning format.

Harville suggested that we recreate the original scenes where we were wounded in the selection process with partners and that partners often have qualities that match the deprivations from our original caretakers. For me, it is not just partners but everyone who is close to me could reflect missing pieces in my childhood. If we could stretch and give to others the qualities that we didn’t get, mainly empathic resonance to others in our life then everyone grows, especially ourselves. We learn about real connection rather than disconnection.

I changed the most in my life when I challenged my ongoing fight for survival and learned how to love the people in my life. This required a massive amount of surrender on my part and lots of therapy from empathic therapists. I thought that I enjoyed my independence and it really worked for me in my early career. What I wasn’t aware of was that the people in my life were either missing me or I was missing them or were annoyed at my ongoing independence. I had good people in my life who were growing themselves and they were able to give me feedback. It was often painful but it felt good to surrender the defensive traits especially being overly inflated about my accomplishments.

Being important to people started to become more important than career success.

I am learning to enjoy and receive the feedback that my caring for others is much more important than how successful I have been in my career. I want you to know that I still am continually challenged in this area.

I was really moved by Harville at the end of part two where he had an empathic connection to the family who felt clear enough to want to make a contribution to society by picking up paper along the highway. Harville was crying and I was crying to. Harville’s journey is now a global initiative from the heart and not from the head. I have so much more to say about how the personal influences the social. How do we help through the heart? I felt proud of my work as a psychotherapist when I heard his encouragement to therapists who are out in the landscape fighting for empathic resonance with others.

For me empathic resonance is manna from heaven as it keeps me engaged in the struggle to be empathic and reminds me that the quality of empathy is what moves mountains.

Perseverance

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I am very moved by these excellent videos. I also feel very inspired to keep on keeping on with deepening my relationships.  Recently I have come to an embodied understanding of experience as it relates to me and another person.  I am learning about really listening to the other's experience while continuing to honor my own experience which may be different. The difference is not what is important!  It is the listening with empathy that can deepen the connection with the other person. This understanding is really helping me in my work as a psychotherapist and also continues to support my friendships.

Thank you for making these videos available to us.  I know I will watch them many times!  There is so much more to learn about relationships.

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I was able to watch the second portion of the video today. The enormity of "coupledom “really made an impact on me. How the relationship of a couple can affect global social change has stayed with me. Harville Hendrix refers to the "down river" clean up that must be done in so many areas of life as we know it. However, if changes could occur via working through of issues within couples, there would be no clean up needed. The vast expanse of that statement has made me think about so many things that do not need to exist in our social systems if we had done our work within couples.

It is certainly worth contemplating and listening to what he has to say and learning and putting into practice the work to be done in “coupledom"

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I have only been able to watch Part One due to computer problems but I am eagerly anticipating Part Two.

I want to comment on Harville Hendrix and his conclusion that we need to recreate in our adult life a scene where we have been wounded in childhood. It immediately takes me back to my childhood with my alcoholic father who raged continually. I am married to someone who is not an alcoholic but who rages often for no apparent reason. It is a long term relationship and the raging is less than it was many years ago because I handle it differently. Having said that. it is often like living with a pressure cooker that may explode at any time. I have learned to identify the signals.

I was severely wounded in childhood and have been wounded again in adulthood. There is no alcohol but the explosivity is certainly there.

I heard Harville Hendrix say that we fall in love with someone who wants from us what we are not capable of giving. He speaks of the part that our partner desires being the part of us that was shut down in childhood, is unconscious to us but within our awareness. If we can stretch into that shut down part of our behavior, it is growth. I love this idea and want to continue growing. I have an idea what my partner wants from me but I can feel myself shut down in order not to provide it.

I must keep working on this with my therapist in order to facilitate growth for both my partner and myself.

My partner was also wounded in childhood!

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I have just finished watching the Harville Hendrix Video and have to say that I am impressed on so many different levels.  The quality of the video production, coupled with Heather Lee Kilty's ability to interview and of course Harville's deep insight into relationships has greatly moved me.  One of the concepts which Harville bases his Imago Therapy on was not new to me.  The idea that we choose partners similar to our caretakers and those who wounded us was very familiar to me.  However, what was new and insightful was the need to recreate in our adult lives scenarios which reflect our wounding in childhood in order for that wound to be repaired.  Furthermore, it is our partners and through our relationships with our partners that these wounds are healed.  In some ways it is difficult for me to grasp this concept. My initial reaction to the realization that I have picked the same type of person to be intimate with as my caretaker who wounded me  is one of fear and I want to run and through my hands up in the air and declare it a huge mistake.  According to Harville, this is the exact person that I need in order to bring full healing into my life.  Harville articulates so beautifully what can happen within ourselves and our relationships when we allow this healing to take place.

 I also really took in  Harville’s systemic view of healing that when we grow and change as persons we can have a global impact.  I love Harville’s vision of growing from a violent society to an empathetic society in which the children of our world can grow up to be empathic beings.

 I appreciate this video being made available to us to that we can learn, grow and heal.

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I really appreciate your honesty about your raging alcoholic father and how you choose someone who rages. I have usually chosen someone who likes to be in control that fits with my father who could be very controlling in a patriarchal way. I have learned that my partner stopped being controlling if I surrendered and let myself trust her wisdom, then it was no longing controlling but was love and tenderness toward me. This was not an easy task and was learned over a long period of time and a lot of therapy and learning to trust my psychotherapist.

In trusting my partner, I could trust the world more and this fits in with Harville’s the personal is social. When I am not so preoccupied with someone controlling me, there is space to make a better contribution to the world by positive engagement with daily activities.

I would be interested in reading more about people’s experience in their relationships and what they are learning as they have viewed this wonderful interview between Harville and Heather.

Amazing Interview by H. Kilty with H. Hendrix 'Imago' Therapy

The Harville Hendrix video brings the gift of sharing information to heal the world around us.  As Harville quotes leading psychologists of the past he refers to a line that has inspired his work, 'as I grow, you heal'.

From the onset of this interview, the practical approach that Prof. Heather Kilty implements sets the tone for us to take away something valuable right away and apply it to our own relationships.

The question everyone wants an answer to is, 'why do couples fight and how to begin the process of healing?'   Harville explains that often couples experience a disconnection and they want it back so they project that responsibility on each other.  This ends in further disconnection.  He explains that the paradox is that, couples fight in order to get more connected. 

Harville Hendrix's argument develops on the theory that couples unconsciously select a partner that isn't going to meet their needs because of their own early wounds with caregivers. He says, "Incompatibility is the grounds of marriage and compatibility is the basis for boredom".  The unconscious mind wants to be in tension and in contrast (not conflict). We need to recreate in our adult life the scene within which we were wounded in our childhood in order to repair the initial wound.  He says that this means we fall in love with someone who we see as similar to the caretakers that were part of our childhood. Harville goes on to call the partner in our lives, "a parental surrogate". 

The question that precedes the intriguing theory above is: 'how can relationships heal from this?' This is where Harville Hendrix contribution to therapy, specifically couple’s therapy is pioneering a new way of working in the model.  He says, "we marry someone who wants from us what we are least capable of giving them.  But they want it from the part of us the was shut down by our own childhood."

He adds that if we are willing to stretch into a behavior that our partner needs that would heal their childhood, then we actually grow a part of ourselves that got atrophied with our parents.

Harville Hendrix speaks of the lost art of empathic resonance in our society. When we look to our own wounding and resist the patterns of reacting, we not only heal our relationships, we get the chance to finally heal our own lives.

I recommend anyone who wants to understand this practical yet powerful approach, watch the video.  Harville Hendrix is a passionate humanitarian whose message in universal and personal. 

Thank you Heather for setting the tone.  It has made the interview succinct and engaging.

Thanks

Thank you for engaging with me in this discussion. It is something I have struggled with for many years and I crave having dialogue around these issues so I can make sense of my work in my own mind. I work and live with some of the most marginalized communities and I have always tried to figure out how I can bring in my knowledge from this work into my work as a psychotherapist. I have found some ways (such as what you are talking about to some extent) and by bringing in the social/cultural/political context into the therapeutic space. I do this by helping people re-frame their experiences in the context of the outside world (within a sexist, racist, classist, bi-gendered, heterosexist, ablest etc. society).

As I write this, I think that my struggle comes in with the limitations of what each of us can do. Me in particular. I always want to do more, bigger, more global work and I struggle to recognize that I am only human (with all the limitations that come with being human) and that I can only do what I can do with this earthly body. It’s so disappointing.

I guess as long as privilege and oppression remain central to our discussions and practice - it can make a difference.  

Holding an Intention

Thank you for your question below

I guess my question is - how do we meet this challenge of privileged people doing privileged work in a world where structural barriers keep some people away from being able to ‘heal’?

For me, It is important that we all work at these issues and make every attempt not to marginalize others or to judge others and that we work on removing barriers in ourselves and in our services so that services are more inclusive.

I have personally felt the pain in both Heather and Harville about power inbalances and a devastation about the lack of empathy for all of our human family.

The more empathic resonance that I learn the more I feel brave to do what every I can around systemic injustices that discourage movement and growth. As a therapist hearing the context of someone's life which often has different cultural reference points can create a point of love and connection and then from connection we can both  act upon actions that moves these issues forward.

Place of privilege?

I watched the Harville Hendrix lecture last night and was reminded of how much I learned that weekend. I was also incredibly moved by the work that Harville is engaged in and his desire to make the ‘personal global.’

I have spent a great deal of time thinking about the world and all the injustices that exist. I appreciated Harville’s desire to try and make a difference in the world through his work with couples. What I question is the role of privilege that is at play in some of his work. Changing the world through couple’s therapy and healing relationships is a beautiful goal, however, I think it underplays structural issues that cannot be left to the good intentions of privileged people. When I talk about ‘privileged people,’ I am referring to white male (and female to some extent), middle-class, heterosexual, and able-bodied people (this list could go on but I will stop there). The reality is that most people who can afford psychotherapy (because it is not covered by OHIP) are in fact privileged. People (like myself) can afford therapy (at the most reduced rate), I can take time off work to go to therapy (most therapists don’t work evenings and weekends), and are able to get into therapist spaces (many are not accessible for people with disAbilities - in this case I am referring to the most limited category of disAbility such as wheelchair access). So, in fact what Harville is positing is that white, upper to middle class, able-bodied people are going to change the world by healing privileged people first (I include myself in this). To some extent this is true since this population has the most power to be able to change structures, however, it is incredibly problematic to suggest that ‘we’ should be supporting this mission without questioning the inherent assumptions and power relations.

I struggle with the thought that poverty, racism, homophobia, transphobia, sexism, on-going colonization, homelessness, disease (HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis etc.) will be healed through different forms of therapy. We may be able to help bring people into consciousness around these issues if we help shape the way people think of these issues but healing people won’t necessarily address these other structural issues that exist in the world.  

I couldn’t afford to attend a workshop on IMAGO therapy. I can barely afford my own therapy and school (at the most reduced rate). This is not a criticism of the school or of therapists because the reality is we do need to make a living and we do deserve to be compensated appropriately for our time and energy. It is just the way the current world works and to some extent this is what needs to be challenged. I say this with some discomfort recognizing that there are people in the school (and therapists in general) that do not fit into the category of ‘privileged.’ I guess my question is - how do we meet this challenge of privileged people doing privileged work in a world where structural barriers keep some people away from being able to ‘heal’?

Power, Privilege and healing

I too really appreciate this dialogue and think that it has an extremely important place in our practices as therapists and lives as members of the human race (and members of the planet).

Systemic inequalities are real - and at the same time they are created and sustained by the people and individuals that carry, maintain and sometimes violently enforce the discourses (ideas, beliefs, behaviors that get written on the body) that support the "structures" you refer to.  And we are all the people that live and experience ourselves and our world within these discourses of power. 

As a therapist working with people - some able to pay and some not...I hold that what I do allows for fissures to develop in the "structures" because they can only be maintained by people. Challenging dominant discourses (dominant ways of thinking/believing/ acting) requires a space that feels a sense of freedom and trust in one's own knowing’s...this to me is a big part of therapy - along with the ability to engage deeply and profoundly with another human being - and to challenge the blocks that prevent this.  We all move out into the world from this place....where I learn to trust my knowing’s and feel deeply engaged with others and feel a deep sense of empathy.

Further to this, I also challenge myself to continually engage in questions about my own privilege and power - what are the ways that I help support and promote privilege?  To me this is a part of ethical practice...

I think the saying goes...."The journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step" Lao Tzu

Couples that are a good match from the beginning

I really understood the concept of being with someone where there is conflict or a challenge. Where you have to stretch to give your partner something that is not in you to give because it was missing from your original caretakers.

In my many years working as a therapist, I have come across a couple of relationships where the person choose a partner that was able to give them what was missing in them from their childhood. It was mainly in for form of unconditional love. I have witnessed over the years how the wounded partner was able to slowly heal and always talking about their relationship as being a good relationship, one in which they could always connect.

I guess it reaffirms Harville’s brilliant idea that we choose a partner who has some character traits like our original caretakers and these traits are designed to give us an opportunity to figure out new changes that need to happen. The Imago therapy for couple’s works on this concept and the therapist becomes the temporary unconditional healer as a way of teaching the couples to really listen and start to heal what was missing in the other person.

Unconditional love as a way

Unconditional love as a way to heal the wounds from our past moves me deeply!  Many of my friendships have provided this for me over the years and I am very grateful!  Working as a psychotherapist is my way to give this back.  I also struggle with unconditional love as a way of being in my friendships particularly when I am triggered by behavior that reminds me of where I was wounded originally. Harville Hendrix's approach to healing relationships is brilliant.  And now on to the WORK!  

IMAGO

I attended the IMAGO couple's therapy workshop that Harville Hendrix presented for OPC and found it to be a profoundly eye opening experience.  The idea proposed by Harville that we choose our partners with character traits similar to our caregivers in order to work through unresolved issues/miss attunements/conflicts etc... is outstanding and has really struck a deep chord within me as a person who is in an intimate relationship with a someone I love deeply and as a psychotherapist who works with couples from time to time in private practice.  I have learned over my years in training with OPC about how our past subjective experiences enmesh with others in relationship and cause great joy and sometimes great conflict.  However, when I add Harville's ideas into the mix, I really see what a wonderful tool our unconscious plays in our life experience in relation to one another.  I have taken time since the IMAGO workshop to look at people I know in intimate relationships (as well as my own) and have really become aware of the truth in Harville’s IMAGO teachings and am more and more excited about what is on the other side of the door that has been opened for me in the area of relationships and the healing that can take place. Wonderful workshop and Fabulous video!

Sometimes it just doesn't work....

I attended and watched the videos of Harville Hendrix and was deeply moved and inspired by both.

At the same time, I want to just put out there, that I believe that sometimes relationships just don't work.  Yes, relationships can be great opportunities to work through and heal childhood wounds.  And then there are times when love just isn't enough.

The art of living and loving seems to be around knowing when something is "done".  And this is not an easy task; but it is an important one.  To stay in a relationship regardless of circumstances and/or context is not a healing endeavor for either person. 

To "work through" struggles and conflicts is heroic, for sure....and sometimes to leave and walk away is just as heroic.  And like the saying goes...."grant us the wisdom to know the difference".